Jesus and the Homosexual by Melvin Otey

Good morning once again if I didn’t get to just say good morning to you personally before then I want to say it again good morning appreciate you guys inviting me to come and and to think with you about some things that quite freak white honestly or not sometimes the easiest things to think about but they are things we have to deal with you know our society is changing things are different than they were 50 years ago or even 20 years ago things are different and so it does us good I think to at least think about these things and how we ought to be God’s people under our present circumstances one of the changes that you you cannot help but see in our society is the proliferation of homoeroticism people engaging in homosexual behavior it is something that used to be that used to be the kind of thing that people had to keep quiet if they were going to do it now it’s the kind of thing that is glorified and celebrated on television glorified and celebrated even in politics sometimes and so I think we should think about how we’re going to deal with this because interacting with men and women lists and boys and girls children engaging in this kind of behavior interacting with them friends this is the new normal it’s not going to turn around and go back to the way it was so we need to give some thought as to how we are going to deal with this circumstance the increasing proliferation of homosexuality in American culture in particular before I dive into this I want to just make a couple of brief notes to you where’s all this come from why have things why have things changed so radically and so quickly it’s not an accident those who have a Christian worldview are not alone in America there are people in our country who have something that is decidedly opposite of a Christian worldview people who have an atheistic worldview and they have been very aggressive over a period of of at least about 80 years in pushing their worldview and part of it includes homosexuality and friends this not our lesson but there are some things beyond homosexuality if you can believe that that are also being advocated and that’s coming but over the last 80 years or so people have been very aggressive about pushing this kind of thing and you’ve seen the changes haven’t you if you if you just pay attention to the television and entertainment again this was the kind of thing where a person couldn’t be a big movie star if he was an open homosexual you know Rock Hudson you remember him I know some of you at least do the man died of AIDS because he was an active homosexual but that was hidden his entire life because he wouldn’t have had a career in Hollywood if people knew that you know there was a time when in your school’s people were being taught the Bible Adam and Eve creation according to to God but now of course people are being taught the evolution and and you cannot mention God in many of our schools anymore without some degree of hostility you might get sued you might get fired well as you continue to to push God out that leaves room for people to push other things in and so God is being pushed out of Hollywood our entertainment industries and atheism including homosexuality it’s part of that platform has been pushed in and we call that entertainment going to movies and seeing two girls kissing it’s been pushed out God has been pushed out of the schools and instead people are being told that this is natural normal behavior to men to women behaving as if they’re members of the opposite sex in the schools and so now our children are being brought up from the youngest ages possible being told this is OK it’s equal it’s the same now what happened most recently they got everybody’s attention was the Supreme Court weighed in in Oberkfell versus Hodges a spring case and they said listen not only did they say it’s legal to have same-sex marriages but along the way to saying this they said homosexuality is natural it’s normal it’s the same as opposite sex marriages and opposite sex relationships so it must be treated with equal footing well that was kind of that was kind of earth-shattering for a lot of Christians see a lot of Christians hadn’t been paying any attention at all until that happened and when that happened all of a sudden people said well well where did this come from it’s been coming for 80 years just haven’t been paying attention see now it’s here then how are Christians going to deal with I remember as a young boy and friends I don’t tell you this to say it was okay it was not okay I’m just telling you this is what I remember as a young boy I remember seeing people who were thought to be homosexuals being attacked publicly in broad daylight and beaten because people thought they were homosexuals and you know what there was no public outcry people didn’t have a response with that kind of treatment now obviously that’s not the way a Christian would respond but now fast-forward and look at the way society responds to this kind of thing now society advances and advocates and encourages this kind of behavior friends that’s not a Christian response either so I asked myself and I think we should ask ourselves as we deal with our new normal interacting with people more and more who are engaged in homosexual activity including bisexuality listen it’s still homosexual activity they just they just don’t discern between the two we should ask ourselves how would Jesus do this how would he operate in our current environment how would he operate in this current circumstance the first thing I think we ought to notice is that Jesus was not the kind of person who would withdraw himself from people engaged in sexual sins rather Jesus was the kind of person who would engage people engaged in sexual scenes Jesus would engage homosexual now how do I know that you remember in Luke chapter 7 about verse 35 their beginning but you remember that Jesus was at one of the Pharisees homes for dinner and a woman came in and the text says she was a sinner she was anointing Jesus because the Pharisee had not been hospitable enough to do that and they saw Jesus allowing this woman to touch him and they said he must not be a prophet because he’s letting this woman touch all over him a lot of people would look at homosexuals today and they would tend to withdraw themselves as if being a homosexual is a disease that you can catch by being in proximity to somebody else it’s not a lot of people would prefer to go off into a corner somewhere and only surround themselves with people who are righteous or trying to be righteous we would rather live sometimes in a cocoon where everybody sees everything and does everything the way we do the way we approve of but that’s not the way Jesus did it Jesus took the opposite approach now I mentioned the lady in Luke 7 it does not explicitly say that she was engaged in sexual sin but the way they responded sort of fits very strongly suggested that that’s what the issue was they saw her and everybody knew she was a sinner okay they thought that Jesus would be corrupted somehow by allowing her to touch him lying is not contagious like that sexual sin had that kind of had that kind of connotation in in Judaism and so that’s the reason I meant but Jesus was not the kind of person who withdraw from others because they were engaged in sexual sin instead Jesus was the kind of person who would engage because of the sin look at Luke chapter 5 in Luke chapter 5 we’re getting about verse 27 with several instances in the New Testament where we can see Jesus interacting with people who maybe were not quite as looked upon looked upon quite as well as some others indeed because of their sexual sins among other reasons and Luke 5 and verse 27 the Bible says and after these things he went forth and behold a publican named Levi sitting at the place of toll he was a tax collector and said unto Him follow me and he forsook all and rose up and followed him and Levi made him a great feast in his house and there was a great multitude of publicans and of others who were sitting that meet with them and the Pharisees and their scribes murmured against the disciples and said why do you eat and drink with publicans and sinners why are you spending time with the unsavoury why are you spending time with people who we can all look at entail they’re not righteous look at Jesus response jesus answered in verse 31 and said to them they that are in health have no need of a physician but they that are sick Jesus spent time with people who were not right people who when others looked upon them could look at them and see that they were sinners but Jesus spent time with them because they needed him he didn’t hide from people he didn’t draw back from people he engaged sinners because sinners needed is hell we may meet we may be more comfortable spending time with people who are righteous people who are trying to be righteous as best we can tell but Jesus made it a point to spend time with people who were not righteous specifically so that he could reach them you can reach anyone for Jesus Christ by running away from them now I’m I’m just I know we sort of have some ranks for different kinds of sin in our own man you know we’re comfortable with people shacking up as long as they shack up with someone of the opposite sex God’s not comfortable with me why are you are you embarrassed to go to lunch with somebody who lives with somebody they’re not married to well all I’m saying is that person if they don’t repent that person is not going to be saved anymore than the homosexual is going to be saved and if you’re willing to spend time with someone who is in sin then why not be willing to engage someone who has this particular kind of sin in their lives Jesus did not distinguish in this particular way he did not run away from sexual sinners and he wouldn’t run away from homosexuals he would engage homosexuals in his community in the schools in places of employment and so forth he would affirmative ly seek to talk with them and establish relationships with them so that he could influence them for God and maybe we should maybe we should learn from Jesus and do what he did don’t run from people who mean Jesus run to people who need Jesus in 1st Corinthians 5 in verse number 9 Paul says something that I think is relevant here in 1st Corinthians chapter 5 in verse number 9 he is going to talk with the Corinthians about who they should spend time with he says to them that he has talked to them before about this in verse 9 I wrote unto you and my epistle to have no company with fornicators listen do not spend time with fornicators the sexually immoral you stay away from sexually immoral people now look at verse 10 though not at all meaning with the fornicators of this world I’m not telling you to stay away from fornicators who are in the word I’m not telling you to have no company with those who are sexually immoral in the world that’s not what I was talking about instead he says that you ought not to keep company with anyone who is called a brother the covetousness extortioners the idolaters those who are in the church but as I wrote unto you not to keep company if any man that has named a brother or fornicator or covetous or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner with such a one though not to eat now what’s the point a person who’s supposed to be a Christian who’s engaged in homosexual sin or any kind of sin but they won’t repent you’re not supposed to spend time with that person socially you’re not supposed to hang out with that person socially what he says is the only way for you to get away from sexually immoral people in the world is to leave the world and he says I never told you not to spend time with him if you’re going to influence them for Christ’s friends you’re going to have to spend some time with them now listen what is spending time with people what is engaging people engaged in sexual sin or any kind of see what does it entail well listen it involves an acknowledgment of sin doesn’t it in engaging people Jesus didn’t just hang out with people for the sake of hanging out with people this is where we go wrong sometimes you know I teach about evangelism and I tell people all the time listen relationship building is a vital part of reaching people for Christ you have to build bridges with people and get to know people and allow them to get to know you so that you can confront them about some of the most intimate things in their lives to confront them about their spiritual well-being and so forth okay sometimes we fall short because we’re making friends for the sake of making friends when what we really ought to be doing is trying to build relationships to reach people for Christ well Jesus in finding time with people he did not ignore his responsibility to acknowledge people’s sin you remember in John chapter 4 where Jesus Jesus is interacting with the Samaritan woman at Jacob’s Well there in John chapter 4 look at what happens now he has a rarely a fairly lengthy conversation beginning that verse number three were told he left Judea and departed again into Galilee and he must needs pass through Samaria so he comes to a city of Samaria called Sychar the near a parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph and Jacob’s Well was there Jesus therefore being wearied with his journey sat thus by the well it was about the sixth hour there comes a woman of Samaria to draw water jesus says to her give me to drink now he initiates the conversation he knows who the woman is he knows everything about her he initiates the social conversation give me to drink for his disciples were gone away into the city to buy food the Samaritan woman therefore says to him how is it that you being a Jew ask a drink of me Who am a Samaritan woman for the Jews have no dealings with Samaritans listen there’s some social there’s some social boundaries that are being crossed here how is it that you a Christian with City want to sit here and have a social conversation with me and open homosexual how are you gonna do that you know Christian isn’t home and said we don’t get along you know that we can’t be together like this I’m just trying to make a contemporary application for you you see what I mean there’s obvious social distance between someone who’s trying to live his life the way God wants to live and someone else who’s living an openly homosexual lifestyle how are we gonna sit here in public and have discourse like this see Jesus answers and says to her if you knew the gift of God and who it is that says to you give me the drink you would ask him and he would have given you living water yeah if you knew who you were talking to see people don’t know just because you’re a Christian right they don’t know what all you have to offer this is listen you don’t underst and with all I have to offer the woman says to him sir you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep wince then have you to the living water are you greater than our Father Jacob who gave us the well and drank thereof himself and his sons and his cattle jesus answered and said to her everyone that drinks of this water shall thirst again but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst but the water that I shall give him shall become in him a well of water springing up unto eternal life the woman says to him Sir give me this water that I thirst not neither come all the way here to draw Jesus says to her go call your husband and come back wait a minute now this thing this thing just took a turn didn’t see Jesus is interacting with her socially listen he’s got no problem he’s standing out in public having a conversation with this woman that was considered taboo he’s a Jew she’s a Samaritan he’s not trying to hide his sin you’re having a conversation as a matter of fact his disciples come back and they’re just trying to know what is he what in the world is he doing here doesn’t he know that this is not to see his this socially that was not acceptable Jesus wasn’t really concerned about all of that he’s trying to influence this woman so that she can be right now the conversation takes a turn go ahead and call your husband and come on back the woman says I have no husband and Jesus says to her you said well I have no husband for you have had five husbands and he to whom you now have is not your husband this you have said truly now what is the point that I’m making to you we don’t spend time with people just to spend time with people we don’t go out in this world making friends because we need company or companionship we try to build relationships with people we engage people so that we can show them their sin that’s the way Jesus did it you can’t do that by running away from people listen there’s a certain way to do it yes there’s a certain spirit yes but we ought to be showing people we ought to be engaging people and showing them where they have fallen short with God that’s the way Jesus did now listen he engaged people so he would engage homosexuals Jesus would also educate homosexuals it wouldn’t be enough to spend time with people just so that people could say well I mean Jesus is willing to spend time with me no that’s not the way Jesus did it Jesus would educate people about what they need to do in order to be right if you look at the things that are going on in our society right now they fly in the face of clear consistent Bible teaching about what God thinks about homosexual behavior now even in the church friends even in the church people are buying into this idea that people are born homosexual there’s there’s absolutely absolutely no scientific support for that idea now people who are persuaded by science ought to at least pay attention to the fact that as much money and time as have been spent to find the gay gene they’ve never found one okay it doesn’t exist doesn’t exist but if you believe in the Bible see you’re not surprised by that God chose Paul to be his spokesman God chose him to be the apostle to the Gentiles and in Romans chapter 1 Paul tells us that homosexuality is listen to it unnatural so people is not born that way it’s learned behavior it’s the kind of thing that people can control and if they want to be right with God listen they must control it’s no different than a person who says listen I was born heterosexual so they think that means they can engage in sexual conduct outside of the parameters that God has given no ma’am and no sir even if you were born heterosexual you still have to control yourself now you aren’t born homosexual you have maybe people different things listen I’ve done a fair amount of reading and research on these things people can people can begin to engage in homosexual conduct for all kinds of reasons one of the reasons nobody likes to talk about is that kids are exposed to things mistreated and abused before they ever have an opportunity to know what sexuality is supposed to be about the numbers of young people who are molested and abused in this society is staggering boys and girls and that has a big impact but Jesus made it his point to educate people so if people are out here thinking listen I was just born this way Jesus would teach people something different when it comes to sexual sins including homosexuality look at Matthew 19 Matthew 19 is an interesting passage for a whole lot of reasons and of course we often go to this passage to talk with people about marriage divorce and remarriage and we do well to do that but that’s not all the passage is about that’s not all the passage is about in Matthew 19 beginning at verse number 3 the Bible says there came unto there came unto Him ferrocene he’s trying him or testing him and saying is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause and he answered and said have you not read that he who made them from the beginning made them male and female and he said for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and shall cleave to his wife and and they two shall become one flesh so that they are no more two but one flesh what therefore God has joined together let not man put asunder and they say to him why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorcement and to put her away and he said unto them Moses for the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives but from the beginning and has not been so listen to this and I say unto you whosoever shall put away his wife except for fornication and shall marry another commits adultery and he that marries her when she is put away commits adultery well that’s pretty clear on the marriage divorce and remarriage part that’s pretty clear the disciples say unto him if the case of the man is so with his wife it is not expedient to marry but he said to them not all men can receive this same but they to whom it is given listen to verse 12 for there are eunuchs that were so born from their mother’s womb and there are eunuchs that were made eunuchs by men and there are eunuchs that have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake he that is able to receive it let him receive it what does that mean Jesus said I know that the truth may be kind of hard for some people I know that some people might not want to listen to the truth the bottom line I know some people may not want to conform to it but the fact is some people are going to have to stay by themselves because they were simply born in a condition that is not conducive to them marry they were born eunuchs born in a condition that makes it more conducive for them to be by themselves some people don’t want to accept that I mean I’m thankful I’m fortunate that that that’s not my lighting life but I’ve got my own sort of baggage and challenges that God has given me and there may be someone else who has certain baggage and challenges we live in a fallen world and their condition may be listen in order for you to be right with God you’re gonna have to be by yourself our society cannot seem to accept that you say well listen I’m not attracted to members of the opposite sex I get it stay by yourself but people reject that even as an option but Jesus wouldn’t allow it he would tell them some people are born this way not homosexual eunuchs some people he says because of the influence of men we’re going to have to be unions there are lots of ways that this could have of course now you you take someone as I mentioned who has been mistreated molested abused or something like that and so now that they’re there thinking about all of this has been corrupted in some way because of the influence of me and maybe it is the case that they will that they will stay by themselves in order to be right with God it could be you know this was a time when castration was was something that was happening and it could be that someone had been castrated and that wasn’t their choice but that’s the condition they find themselves in because of the influence of being and so you’ll have to be by yourself it could be in the marriage and divorce context if somebody’s marrying the spouse up and runs off for their spouses just absolutely no earthly good to them and and so that’s it in fact they are sort of without a spouse though they desire to have one but it may be that the circumstances are such that they’re not going to be entitled to have another one and so because of the influence of men they have to stay by themselves and he says there’s some who make themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake I mean physically if they want it to they are able to marry a member of the opposite sex and so forth and it may be that there is no earthly circumstance that actually prohibits them or hinders them from marrying but it may be that they just they just want to have a commitment to God and be able to serve God in a way that listen being marry would be sort of a detraction from their ability to do that the only point I’m making to you is Jesus would not make excuses for people engaging in sexual sin Jesus would not accept this idea that a person doesn’t have any choice you always have a choice you just may not like the choices you have but that doesn’t mean you don’t have one Jesus would expose people to God’s design for marriage and sexual intimacy and he would encourage them to follow God’s design he would engage people he would get to know people he would spend time with people including homosexuals and he would educate them about the Word of God it’s hard to do that while you run away from folks isn’t it hard to do that when you’re afraid to shake somebody’s hand or look somebody in the eye Jesus would also encourage homosexuals he would encourage people to repent it’s one thing to talk about a person’s romantic relationships but Jesus did not stop at merely exposing people to the truth of God’s Word he didn’t stop it simply educating people about what God requires of them he called men and women both to repent now specifically regarding homosexuality I want you to think about something sometimes people say well Jesus never spoke about homosexuality I’m afraid that he did you remember if among other instances you remember in Matthew chapter 10 in verse number 15 he says but truly I say unto you it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the Day of Judgment than for your city gneisses listen you saw what God did back there in Sodom and Gomorrah the cities of the plain because they engaged in homosexual activity you saw what God did he judged them he condemned them and God Jesus is saying listen and you’re gonna have a bigger problem than them if you don’t repent friends that is an affirmation of what happened in Sodom and Gomorrah that is an affirmation that that is an example that you and I are supposed to learn from God didn’t approve of it then he doesn’t approve of it now he expected them to repent then he expects us to repent now he judged them for not repenting then he’s no judge that’s for not repenting now now how much more does he need to say on it he ratifies the law of Moses the law of Moses condemns this kind of behavior he ratifies the example of God judging people who engaged in this kind behavior how much more does he need to say about it for you to get his point but look at Luke five in Luke chapter five we’ve seen here you remember we’ve seen in Luke five I don’t want to look at that again because we did and Luke five he says he came to call publicans and sinners to repent he came to call people to repent so John eight and verse one in John chapter eight verse number one here we’ve got this woman who was taken in adultery you remember Jesus went unto the Mount of Olives in verse one and early in the morning he came again into the temple and all the people came unto him and sat down and he sat down and taught them and the scribes and the Pharisees brought to him a woman taken in adultery and having said her in the midst they say unto Him teacher this woman has been taken in adultery in the very act now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such what do you say of her and this they said trying him are tempting him that that they might have we’re up to accuse him but Jesus stooped down and with his finger wrote on the ground and when they continued asking him he lifted up himself and said to them he that is without sin among you let him cast the first stone I want to make a point here this was a capital crime that the woman engaged in homosexuality was also a capital crime under the law of Moses Jesus knows that very well they bring this lady and say listen we caught her in the midst of it Jesus is there with him he acknowledges what is going on they say this trying to test him to tempt him in verse number seven when they continued asking him he lifted up himself and said he that is without sin among you let him the first oh okay verse eight and again he stooped down and with his finger wrote on the ground and they when they heard it went out one by one beginning from the eldest even unto the last and Jesus was left alone and the woman where she was in the midst I think this is important I think this is important now there’s a crowd of people asking Jesus to publicly condemn this woman now we’re going to get into public condemnation of an individual like this see everybody there could have been condemned Jesus challenges them listen yes the one of you who is not culpable now it could be that he’s saying the one of you that it’s not complicit in what has happened here how you catch somebody in the act of adultery the only one of them I mean how did that happen how does that work so it could be that he’s saying it could be that he’s saying listen you guys have some responsibility for the wrong that’s happening here you can sometimes do the right thing the wrong way I mean you guys are wrong in what you’re doing there could be that it could be more generally he saying listen to the one of you who hasn’t done something that would require you under the law to be stoned why don’t you why don’t you go ahead and be the first one to throw but he points that out to them and when he does the crowd begins to leave now I want you to see something now he’s got the woman and himself Jesus lifts himself up and says to her in verse 10 woman where are they did no man condemn you and she said no man Lord and Jesus said neither do i condemn you go your way and from henceforth sin no more see he encourages this lady to repent doesn’t he he’s not going to overlook her sin but he’s not going to fly off the handle and react as if this is the only sin that would condemn a man to he’s going to treat this lady with dignity and respect even though he does not agree even though he does not approve and he never will agree or approve he still treats her with dignity he still deals with her privately he still does not give in to some kind of mob mentality Jesus loved this woman in her sin knowing she was a sinner he still treated her with dignity and with respect and he was not going to allow people to abuse her because they were they were bothered by her particular sin knowing they were sinners themselves but Jesus wasn’t going to let the sin pass you need to repent if you want to be right I look at first Corinthians chapter 6 and it helps me to know that when you think about people who may struggle with homosexuality sometimes people don’t struggle they just give in to it all together but it helps me and I think we ought to pay attention that we’re not just talking about others people out in the world way over there when you talk about how Jesus would treat homosexuals you need to understand that you’re sometimes talking about how he would treat us don’t know if you think about this but there are people who struggle with homosexuality in the church the same way people struggle with every other kind of fornication in the church there are people in the church who struggle with homosexuality there are people in the church who have come out of homosexuality and there are people in the church who struggle with it’s still the same way people in the church struggle with pornography the same way people in the church struggle with every other kind of sexual sin now how are you going to treat your brothers and your sisters who struggle in this respect in this passage Jesus through Paul is making it very clear that it’s not just about others in verse nine he says or know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God be not to seem either fornicators nor idolaters nor adulterers nor effeminate nor abusers of themselves with men nor thieves nor covetous nor drunkards nor revilers nor extortioners shall inherit the kingdom of God now he lists all those sexual sins and those first part of the list it is six will send fornicator generally people who are engaged in sexual conduct outside the confines that God gives idolaters where does that come from well idolatry oftentimes engage sexual scenes people engaging in conduct with temple harlots and that kind of thing that was very common and so sexual immorality was a part of many kinds of pagan rituals nor adulterers people who are not faithful to their wedding vows sexually listen to this nor effeminate nor abusers of themselves with men that is the passive and active parties in a male homosexual relationship says those people all of them are numbered with the thieves the covetous the drunkest arouse the extortioners none of them are going to inherit the kingdom of God that sounds like a confrontation of sin to me that sounds like someone who’s not overlooking these kinds of sexual immoral behaviors but looking at verse 11 and such were some of you he’s not speaking in a vacuum he’s speaking to Christians who have struggled with all of the things he just mentioned including homosexuality you guys understand because there are some in your number who struggle with this sin you used to be that but what happened they were encouraged to repent Paul taught them the gospel call them out of that particular sin and any other that they had to come to and he says but you were washed you were sanctified you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus by it’s Authority you were called out of that scene Jesus would call people to repent see he went engage yes and he would teach people yes but ultimately he would confront people and encourage them to repent he says and in the spirit of our Lord I know that Jesus would correct people because he always corrected people I know that he would correct homosexuals because he corrected sexual sinners of every kind Jesus would do all of this he would engage and he would educate and he would encourage in a loving way because he loved everyone and he would be compassionate and dealing with people because he was compassionate with everyone I know in in our society and sometimes in our hearts you know we look at homosexuality as a super sin you know but Jesus didn’t seem to treat the sexual sense this way he made time for people he got to know people he taught people and he encouraged people to repent how would he treat homosexuals I’ll tell you what he wouldn’t do he wouldn’t do what we used to do in this society and in some places in the world they are still right now throwing homosexuals off of buildings see Jesus would not beat up and attack people because of this particular scene he would I tell you what else he wouldn’t do he wouldn’t act like there was no problem like we do now he wouldn’t celebrate people for being homosexual is like we do now in this society he would engage people educate people and he would encourage people to repent that’s what we should do that’s what a Christian should do thank you

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